Agenda and minutes

Venue: The Jeffrey Room, St. Giles Square, Northampton, NN1 1DE.

Contact: Partnerships and Communities Team  0300 330 700 e-mail:

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Welcomes, introductions and apologies pdf icon PDF 185 KB


Present: Cllr Brian Oldham (Co-Chair BO), Roger Rumsey (Co-Chair RR), Maureen Hill (MH), Malcolm Mildren (MM), John Rawlings (Quakers JR), Tony Mallard (NFRA, Veterans Club TM), Ann Timson (AT), Veronica Male (Tollers & DAA), J Forrest-Smith (JFS), Bill Parker (NCC), Dr Caolyn Kus (NCC), Prof. Jacqueline Parkes (JP), Jennifer Shaw (NASS, JS), Hazel Tuttle (HT), Rufia Ashraf (RA), Aimee Luck (NBC AL), Nisha Mejer (NBC NM)


Apologies: Jeanette Pidgen, Brian Nichols, Christiana Owusu -Akuffo, Michael Hill, David Hewitt, Alan Wright, Anna Earnshaw




Minutes and Matters Arising pdf icon PDF 62 KB


Mins approved.


RR wrote to the NBC solicitor. 


NM gave an update for the Environmental Survey report.




Cllr Bill Parker and Anna Earnshaw - Northamptonshire Adult Social Services (NASS) pdf icon PDF 85 KB


Anna Earnshaw sent her apologies and Karolyn Cus (KC) attended instead. KC gave an overview of Northamptonshire Adult Social Care (NASS).


Intention for Northampton County Council (NCC) – to make service more efficient and work in partnership with other organisations.

NASS to bring together Olympus Care Services (OCS) and the assessment and functionality of NCC. Moved the staff together to form NASS.

Want to change the way we work. Creating short term intervention. Referred either from hospitals or people can self-refer.

Only one fifth of referrals come from hospitals. People from community needs to get access equally.

OCS – still there and offers services. Provide long and short term support.

There will be big changes from the discharge of patients to their recovery. Rather than being assessed in hospital, patients to be assessed in the home or residency. Regards to longer term, complex needs will be met.

Key parts are safeguarding and assessing – to stay within the NCC. Also any commissioning to stay with NCC.

NASS went to cabinet in March. Will go live 1st September.

BP: The service needed to reform. Coalition govt announced to stop 70% revenue budget. Revenue Support grant will disappear in 2020. This is a substantial amount. We will need to raise money through Council Tax and business rates. More recently – additional £23 million over years to be spent on ASS. Have to report how it has been spent.

Looking to spend money on domiciliary care, voluntary sector etc.

NASS will become a trust. Will enable us to bring additional funds.


Q: When discharging people from hospital. How quickly will they be assessed?

A: In practice there will be a muliti agency team. Plans will be put in place. The discharge policy is complicated. Have teams on site who determine who is ready to go home. Will be a process in place before patient is discharged.

There is an increase in people going to A&E. This puts pressure on the service.


Services have been cut and the government has recognised this. Waiting to see outcome of election. Should see more integration going forward.

CP: Two things are happening at the moment.

Firstly, there is a health and wellbeing board – this is a clear message that organisations want to closely with NCC.

Secondly there is a big change to community care packages. There is a move away from residential care to more home based. Significant changes to this and money will be spent in this area.


Q: How will this be promoted to the public?

A: Referrals are being made through professionals or the public. There is an online platform called Brolly. This will be monitored and people can look at prices. This is being promoted now through leaflets, care directory on hard copy. Information is in libraries and there will be a roadshow in July.

Promoting equipment to help people stay at home. 


Q: Is there a conflict of interest with hospitals wanting beds and the care packages?

People have  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.


Dementia Action Alliance - Jacqueline Parkes


JP gave background to Dementia Action Alliance (DAA). Working on making Northampton a Dementia Friendly town.

JP works at University of Northampton and is a mental health nurse. Spare time leading the University strategy to work on Dementia.

Focussed on educating workforces and is operating a flagship project to launch a post Diagnostic Support Centre.

Very keen to listening to the public. Lots of engagement work. Become Chair of DAA took over from Veronica Male. It is a social movement creating awareness. Do not have a cure for Dementia but starting to get people supportive of Dementia.

Dementia is an umbrella term –there are over 100 different types of Dementia. Can happen to people of all ages. Dementia is growing fast. Aging population and people living longer. Looking at alternative sources of care. Have to have a strategy to keep vast majority at home.

Looking at major changes of care. Heavily involved in looking at villages being created.

Identified various areas that need to be reviewed are developing this. Helping to develop a document for Northamptonshire.

Exploring with working with the Police.

Looking at having a Patient Forum for people with Dementia and Carers and working with NBC to deliver this.


Changemaker Uni – look at how we educate our professionals. Won award last year for Post Diagnostic Support. Provide activities for people who are diagnosed and for the carers. Referrals to come through memory clinics.


Q: Is there a high incidence of Dementia of people who live in busy roads?

A: No. Other universities looking into this. Looking at why people getting Dementia in their 30s and 40s. Over 100 different types of Dementia. Have halved the number of men in their 50s in getting vascular Dementia by telling people to look after their hearts and to manage blood pressure. Lots we do know and lots we don’t.


Q: Are you linked with Healthwatch? Healthwatch builds volunteers. Can link into this.

A: Yes will be linking in a more focussed way.

Q: What are basic tell-tale signs of Dementia?

A: Look at behaviour change in somebody. People can have it for years before they show signs. Maybe doing things out of character. 


Q: How successful is the technology for assessment?

A: It is helpful. They don’t just have one problem. Have to have brain scan.

Q: What is the referral rate from the Doctor?  

A: There is always gonig to get a slight cognitive decline and not necessarily form Dementia. Have had 67% referral rate. People are frightened to go to the Doctor. There is a stigma around the illness. Lots of misdiagnosis. Can take 5 years to diagnose youngsters.

Post Diagnostic support is not fully supported.

Q: Is there treatment to slow it down?

A: Some conditions can be slowed down but not cured. Still don’t know what’s triggering it. It is a concern.  When profile is raised you will see an increase in cases.


Q: If someone has impact on the brain do they get Dementia?  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.


Action Plan


NM read out Action Plan and gave updates



Community News Exchange


Police and Crime Commissioner meeting for forum members:  20th July 2-4pm. Venue TBC


RR: Read out email from the Police about the Manchester. RR requested people to become vigilant but to carry on.


TM: The Federation of Residents Association suggested to move back to the Guildhall and have a forum. This will happen in Guildhall.

Will stay as federation and people can join for a small fee. Will get public liability.

RA: Gave out leaflet on behalf of Rural Wellbeing Service. Give services to elders living in rural areas.

JR: Number of people in West Hunsbury asking why some people pay more for rates than others.

A: CT goes up when you live in a Parish Council. This is being reviewed.

RA: When my son was 4 years old. Has meningitis. My 9 year old has become a carer. My son is abseiling down the Sixfields tower and the funds will go to Disney Ward. 12pm 3rd June.



Suggestions for Items for Future Meetings or Forum Activities


AGE UK. Liam Condon retiring, forum members would like to invite him.


Scooter 2 Go.



Any Other Business


AT:  Why don’t the hospitals have the blood testing dept in one area?  AT will write to them.

HT: There are hold ups at the bus station. Solution to make the road two way. BO: This is a NCC issue. ACTION: JS to relay this back.

Would be better to revert to old system and have traffic in Abington Street.

TM: Has problems with contacting helpdesk at Northamptonshire Partnership Homes.



Date and venues of future Forum Meetings

July 27th 1:30 – 4pm, The Guilhdall




27th July, The Guildhall, 1:30pm.